Martin Schmidt (free, free)
@martin__a__s
@devanshmehta @hal2001 @A_Leutenegger I don't think this counts as a conversion of tokens to equity: token holders were expropriated and received parts of the remaining treasury in ETH. No equity.
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Today, Across posted a proposal to convert from a token structure to a private company through an ACX token-to-equity exchange and buyout.
This proposal is a temperature check. Nothing happens without a discussion and formal vote.
Across is a great product. We pioneered crosschain intents and invented the 2-second bridging experience. Across has moved billions and billions of assets between chains, and we have helped unify Ethereum and all its chains. I’m proud of what we’ve built, and I believe this proposal lets us double down on our future while benefiting all existing tokenholders.
Below are my personal thoughts on why I think this proposal makes sense and why I’m maximally bullish on the future of Across.
I have always been a token maximalist, and I’ve always been against the “high FDV, low float” token launch strategy. I like fighting against the traditional VC path where companies privately build value in structures that regular people cannot access. We launched the Across token very early, at a very low valuation, and with a very broad airdrop. We picked this strategy so that we could build value in public *with *our community. We have done this for over 4 years.
Today, the macro environment has changed. Tokens are undervalued and underappreciated. I have many theories on why this is (that I’ll save for another post), but the reality for Across is that having a token generally hurts more than it helps.
Across has a consumer facing product, but Across is primarily payments infrastructure. Over the years, we have entered into contracts with many tier 1 crypto projects. But Across cannot directly enter these agreements as it has no legal entity: we need to route these agreements through our foundation. As we approach more traditional financial institutions, this wonky structure hinders us—it’s harder to sell our infra into tradfi or crypto-adjacent companies. The world I believe we are heading towards has more and more 3rd parties paying user transaction fees, and it’s becoming increasingly necessary to enter out-of-protocol agreements. We want to position Across to be maximally effective in this world. More on this below.
In a word, stablecoins.
At Devcon SEA in late 2024, I gave a presentation arguing that crosschain intents were needed to unify the many L2s, sidechains, and alt-L1 of crypto. The argument was simple: the rapid increase in the number of chains had fragmented the user experience, and users needed a 2-second bridging experience to unify this mess. The crosschain intents architecture that Across pioneered was, and still is, the only viable way to do this.
Today, we are fragmenting the user experience again, but in a different dimension. We now have many, many stablecoins. Users are moving dollars between USDC and USDT, but also between USDH, USDe, USDS, PYUSD, MUSD, CASH, and many more. We again are stepping into an incredibly messy and fragmented user experience.
What is especially crazy is that the user is required to pay to move between dollars?! You send $100 USDC and get $99 of stablecoinXYZ. What normie user is going to adopt this? It’s worse than credit cards or fintech payment apps.
I firmly believe that many stablecoins will win, but it will require $1 = $1.
Of course, there is some cost to move money. Someone has to pay some fee. But it shouldn’t be the user. It should be the asset issuer that is earning the yield on their stablecoin. The user should move money for free.
This is exactly the agreement that we pioneered with Native Markets for USDH, the Hyperliquid native stablecoin. You send $1 of USDC and get $1 of USDH. Or send $1m USDC and get $1m USDH. And of course you can do this in seconds from many different chains. This is what money movement should be like.
Across has two more yet-to-be-announced deals that make moving money free for users. My personal belief is that this “free bridging” will be table stakes for all stablecoins by the end of 2026. Securing these deals requires contracts and out-of-protocol payments, which are functions that are not well suited for DAOs.
In two (buzzy) words: agentic payments.
Across is an intents-based protocol. That means a user states an intent “I want to move $10 USDC from Arbitrum to Base” and a network of solvers competes to fill that intent.
Back in 2024, there was much discussion about generalizing intents. Crypto twitter wanted to write intents like “I have $20, get me a pizza delivered in the next hour” and have it work. It was a cool idea, but it was too early.
It’s not exactly too early anymore. Agentic payments are a direct analogy to intents. You literally could declare your pizza intent and have a swarm of agents (aka solvers) hire RentAHuman.ai and compete to fill your pizza order. Or you could write “here’s $1000, buy me Taylor Swift tickets as soon as they come online”. Etc, etc.
It turns out that everything really is an intent, and Across is well positioned to be core infrastructure in this future world.
The proposal to convert Across to a private company is, as far as I know, a first in the crypto space. We have done many iterations and reviews of this proposal. Our guiding principle was to make this fair: all employees, all investors (big and small), and all other token holders can exchange their tokens for equity at the same 1:1 ratio. Everyone will have the same class of shares, on the same terms.
This is new, and we expect questions. Please do share your thoughts on the Across forum. This proposal is a temperature check, and nothing will be decided without dialogue and a formal DAO vote.
For my part, I am bullish on Across and I am excited to double down on our future.
Full proposal in the Across forum is here.
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Martin Schmidt (free, free)
@martin__a__s
@devanshmehta @hal2001 @A_Leutenegger I don't think this counts as a conversion of tokens to equity: token holders were expropriated and received parts of the remaining treasury in ETH. No equity.
Devansh Mehta
@devanshmehta
@martin__a__s @hal2001 @A_Leutenegger Yup you're right, which is maybe a cleaner structure? Let them convert to stablecoin or eth, and then give priority option to purchase equity There were also weird edge cases aragon had to deal with around unclaimed funds etc which will likely be an issue for across too
Leuts.eth
@a_leutenegger
@devanshmehta @martin__a__s @hal2001 Yes it was basically a redemption on the treasury. So the "sunsetting" of the token would be overlap with what Hart is doing but no conversion. Aragon was bound within Swiss law as it had a 2018 association legal wrapper. You can't simply liquidate a non-profit and walk away with the money without paying taxes. So the redemption rate was the maximum amount allowed by the Swiss tax authorities without a taxation penalty. The remaining funds were put into a new Swiss foundation with a completely new board to continue the non-profit mission. It was, as you can imagine, a massive undertaking. My opinion: It wasn't "sexy" but looking back early ICO participants walked away with 10x+ gains, the mission continues and has been doing amazing since. Everyone involved did whatever they could under a very complex and unknown circumstance. A lot was learned and we take a lot of those learnings into our new products and vision to make the industry more resilient.
Martin Schmidt (free, free)
@martin__a__s
@devanshmehta @hal2001 @A_Leutenegger It depends. I think in a sense the proposed Across structure is fairer towards token holders, since they retain ownership of the underlying business (and probably have much stronger ownership rights post-conversion), whereas in the Aragon case token holders were only partially compensated (it was basically a transfer of wealth from token holders to the team - although I believe in the meantime Aragon has implemented some not-for-profit structure, not sure about the details). The situation is also not comparable since Aragon had negative "equity" value at the time of the proposal - i.e. treasury value exceeded the token's market cap. So liquidating part of the treasury was a way to unlock value. For Across, paying out token holders would presumably not make sense given that FDV > treasury value.
Martin Schmidt (free, free)
@martin__a__s
@devanshmehta @hal2001 @A_Leutenegger And yes I think the nitty-gritty of the conversion will be messy. Presumably there will be a conversion window, and if you miss it you're out of luck. That was the same for Aragon, and also e.g. for Gnosis / xDAI.
Leuts.eth
@a_leutenegger
@martin__a__s @devanshmehta @hal2001 In the Aragon case there had to be a window -> the onchain window was 1 year and then offchain extended another year. We had many redemptions after the onchain window closed.
Leuts.eth
@a_leutenegger
@devanshmehta @martin__a__s @hal2001 Regarding this, I don't know if Across has the money to give a redemption as an option?
shahar ∎
@shaharkaminsky
@hal2001 Ask them a complex math question in a casual way and see if they respond too fast :) But ignore the human vs agents. Let’s think about it in terms of intent type I can totally see that the stable -> stable intents would be best served by off chain agreements It seems to me like the Swiftie -> agent -> pizza intent would be best served by an on chain fee Wdyt?
hal2001.hl
@hal2001
@shaharkaminsky I think it's impossible to forecast with too much accuracy. We should support both, and see what happens!
Kristian
@kristian_kho
@hal2001 Have sold my ACX tokens early on during the rally and haven’t bought back yet as i couldn’t see at the time how the token can capture protocol value fully. As some have suggested, if the future token reflects company equity, i think it’ll be very interesting.
CryptoNFT 🦇⚛️😈 🦥 🦣
@lherfel
@hal2001 only space for 100 USA investors who must also be accredited and minimum of investment being worth $10,000 USD after a 97% drop in ATH token value? 1) no non accredited investors at all 2) whale investors only who put in $100,000+ dollars of ACX tokens at ATH. 97% drop from ath. 3) "100 US investors" but minus all the insiders to get the real number Basically with those criteria, its only going to be insiders plus whale investors who can get any equity?
Martin Schmidt (free, free)
@martin__a__s
@hal2001 Somewhat related: cmc shows "unlocked market cap" that's smaller than "market cap" - this doesn't make sense. Do you have a number for the tokens which (if this goes through) will be converted? https://t.co/npfoEv7WIq
Bananachain ⛺️ (🦄,🦄).ink
@bananachain1
@hal2001 This can be an interesting way of going forward, but I think there needs to be more discussion. Other options need exploring, in particular regarding participation and upside participation by community members which is whiped out this way. Some thoughts: https://t.co/v0FWNuhSTE
Ebullition
@ebullitionx
@hal2001 This would make it a security if equity in a privately held c corp wouldn’t it? I know the Gensler era is done and stocks have come onchain, but is the legal framework to do is established yet?
Francesco
@fcesco
@hal2001 as always, ahead of the pack. Really excited for the future for Across! It takes courage to see it now but I believe this is the right direction.
chuck
@cwmtwtr
@hal2001 Help me think about this: what’s cap table look like post conversion - ie is this a 1:1 based on FDV or some kinda of ratio (FDV = x% of total post conversion).
jordaniza.eth
@jordanimran2
@hal2001 https://t.co/K321Ni7ZR1 Thoughts above ser. I like Across and the team but as it currently stands I think you might be giving in too easy.
GODI
@godicap
@hal2001 @KentonPrescott so vested tokens convert to liquid equity? that looks a bit unfair for tokenholders
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